Line 1 - tank destroyers. Tous les chars premium montrés peuvent être mis en œuvre comme disponibles à l’achat pour les Lions, les offres spéciales pack ou tout autre. By +1 I honestly love seeing new nations in the game combined with the fact that Switzerland is an awesome nation with a lot of cool native tank designs, although if it were added something should be done about their air tree. Je m’attends à ce que Praga LTL-H et Leichter Panzer 35 soient les réservoirs de la Réserve. Perhaps even replace some of the very controversial copy paste US tanks there? France and Sweden still have many things left to add (though low and mid BR's might come a bit empty). Now I would like to add some words about my tech tree. J’ai essayé de trouver des arbres de technologie d’avion pour la Suisse, mais il n’y en avait pas. Le véhicule était destiné à l’exportation, mais il n’y avait aucun intérêt à ce sujet, de sorte qu’il est resté à l’étape du prototype. Unfortunately there is no information how many were built. There is no SAM machines, but their guns will become deadly in the right hands. This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. Véhicules uniques avec des canons suisses uniques. The point still stands though trees like this can be great inspiration for people to start doing proper research, but without that research they are nothing more than photos. Il a été installé sur un tel châssis blindé au cas où il pourrait être observé par l’ennemi (pour résister à un feu léger). All the shown premium tanks can be implemented as available for purchase for Lions, pack specials or any others. On 23/11/2019 at 17:18, Nicholas_Concu said: On 25/05/2020 at 09:11, _Condottiero_ said: Le 19/11/2019 à 05:19, PikPikkker a déclaré: 1. Prototypes, weird history, weirder cars, and obscurity. [Update] "Shark Attack" War Thunder introduces a variety of new vehicles ranging from Russian helicopters to the first rank V naval vessels and the introduction of the Swedish … All the BRs are approximate (or can be totally wrong), and were set as for arcade mode. ADATS sur roues dans le haut termine parfaitement la ligne. Ligne 2 - SPAAG. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. Should be treated as an Leo 2A5 equivalent and therefore a strong candidate for "10.7"  (or whatever BR cap raise is gonna take place next year). Jus a couple of nitpicks: Firstly Pz 68 ET has both (very Leo 2 looking) composite armor and 120mm gun, that should make the tank 9.3 at the very minimum or 9.7 more optimally. If Swiss is to be added as an independent tree i think they should be with the Axis in the matchmaker. Only one (or few) was built, but vehicle was unsuccessful because at that time ATGM were much better than 80 mm twin launcher. We just have to figure out to which nation the merge would make most sense and would help to fill the tech tree. The best thing is to merge it with another nation that doesn't have a lot of original vehicles to realistically give like France, Italy or Sweden. Maintenant, je voudrais ajouter quelques mots sur mon arbre tech. If South/Latin America is included in the main tree sure then it's a +1. Would you like to see Swiss tech tree in War Thunder? That is a possibel Tier 1 antiaircraft truck. The other nations have spotty tech trees with very few vehicles which suffer issues. https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Ground_vehicles&oldid=88959. Cancel Unsubscribe. Even if we change anything, replace … À la fin il ya IFV moderne avec canon automatique. Line 3 - medium tanks. It would be great to see haflinger with atgm in the game! At the end there is modern IFV with automatic canon. Ligne 5 - Véhicules à roues ATGM. As you can see, there is enough vehicles to build a classic (with at least 6 tanks per rank) tech tree with less than 10 copy-tanks in total! MLRS by MOWAG from 1960s (20 tubes presumably of 122 mm). You can access decent sources for all other tanks from my site (I will also answer all the questions regarding my tree if you have any!). Line 2 - SPAAGs. War Thunder. It's not the most spoken in Switzerland, the language has nothing to do with the integration of the swiss tree, France and Germany are the 2 most probable trees that it could be added (I see it better for France because Germany has already a LOT of vehicles), It's the ground tree that has the most of unique vehicles (even if I dont care of the copy pastes, I even want them), the air force is more empty, but more famous, it's the problem if there is only Switzerland (well, Gaijin made that with Sweden, so why not with Switzerland). War Thunder pilots and tankers! Of course it is a big work of implementing them, and no wonder if we will have to wait several years before the release of Switzerland in the game, for example. A world where an American in a German tank will claim Russian bias after being destroyed by an IS-2 that is sideclimbing because it's driver is in South America. Rank 1: 6 (for research) + 1 (premiums), Total: 75 vehicles (62 without premiums). Sure it's somewhat empty in the middle, but so would be the Italian or french tree without all the copy-past vehicles. ADATS on wheels in the top perfectly finishes the line. The thing is it's just ground and even then we can't just show a random picture to Gaijin with the instructions "Gib nao" The issue is brought up with every minor tree. The only time a photo and a name is enough is when the vehicle is already well known and has already been documented in books or other material. This page was last edited on 5 January 2021, at 11:46. Even if we did get it as a separate tree for the Swiss, I doubt it would get even half of what's shown here. Néanmoins, la Suisse dispose d’un large éventail de chars et de véhicules militaires uniques construits localement, dont certains ont été fabriqués pour l’exportation. The amx 13 turret on the piranha  hull... A definite +1 for me, the more nations in the game the merrier, imagine the amount of years of cool stuff we would get if they kept adding one nation a year (or two). British ground forces Tier II - Review and Analysis - Oxy. There is also yet another swiss Leo 2A4 by RUAG (further development from Pz 87 WE) but this one did not enter service with the armed forces, the Leopard 2A4 Mid-Life: Also don´t forget that Swiss army has CV9030 IFV in service. In any case I think it is a good idea Swiss tech-tree, there are many brilliant, funny to play and unique vehicles. MLRS par MOWAG des années 1960 (20 tubes vraisemblablement de 122 mm). This Tech tree only contains 2 planes that are in game already (I do not count premium planes) Also for those people that says we do not need them right now, i am waiting for the french tree… The only proper argument against a Swiss tree is the lack of planes. This page was last edited on 18 November 2020, at 20:17. Malheureusement, il n’y a aucune information sur le nombre d’entre eux qui ont été construits. Â, Yes, I can imagine how difficult it can be about every single vehicle.Â, Well, I would really like to add all the information about every tank (as you did in your Swedish Tech Tree), but besides that it takes a lot of time, some of them need archive research which I'm unable to do, unfortunately.Â. South Africa and its military forces contributed in many theaters of war. Advocation For South Africa - Ground Tech Tree - Part 1 - War Thunder - YouTube. https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html. For those wondering how a SA tech tree could look like! The Bf 109 F-1 is a rank II German fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB), 2.3 (RB), and 3.3 (SB). Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur MOWAG Tornado en 1975. Il a reçu une nouvelle tourelle à distance avec un autocanon de 20 mm. We’re happy to present to our players the first South African armoured vehicles as a separate branch of the British tech tree. Ligne 1 - chasseurs de chars. Switzerland has nothing to do with Italy. But yet again you prove them wrong with all these amazing vehicles that obviously majority aren't in game that could totally be.  Switzerland being neutral or a minor nation isn't an argument against it anymore after Sweden was added. Ive seen the war thunder forum say that the swedish tech tree is not … South Africa's contribution consisted mainly of supplying troops, airmen and material for the North African campaign (the Desert War… I expect Praga LTL-H and Leichter Panzer 35 to be the Reserve tanks. One of the last projects of the Polikarpov design bureau, the TIS MA is a unique and deadly aircraft. Réservoirs légers avec une protection minuscule mais avec un armement dangereux. IFV construit en 1985. The Chinese tech tree imho is necessary in a game such as War Thunder due to a sizeable Chinese/Taiwanese player-base, their impact in world affairs during the 20th-21st Century (WWII, Korean War, etc. But yet again you prove them wrong with all these amazing vehicles that obviously majority aren't in game that could totally be.  Veterans of War Thunder Ground Forces will remember that the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) was the crown jewel of the German tree during the early stages of development. Radpanzer expérimental MOWAG avec tourelle du chasseur de chars Skorpion II (canon de 90 mm). Unique vehicles with unique Swiss guns. But for now the main idea of this tree (and all my other trees) is to prove they can exist in the game the shown way or any other, there is enough built vehicles. Line 5 - ATGM wheeled vehicles. I tried to find any aircraft tech trees for Switzerland but there were not any. We proudly present War Thunder tanks tech trees… I see it more like the French tree, against America AND GermanyÂ. Planes throughout each … Climbing the ranks with British aircraft - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "Britain aircraft" The following 121 pages are in this category, out of 121 total. On dirait qu’il n’est pas allé plus loin parce que le pistolet avait trop de recul pour ce châssis léger (1954). war thunder gameplay ps4 - russian planes tech tree - YouTub War Thunder features a complex and detailed 'skill tree' type library of planes for each playable country. I see that the leichter panzer 51 isnt here, i want my favourite 6.3 amx 13 in this swiss tech tree. Even though there historical relations with Germany during the war was tense and there were a few interception of German planes during the war. The tree is almost free of any import tanks, and I think this is a good reason to see this country in the game. Of course clone/lend-leases vehicles do have a good place in the structure of War Thunder; providing a sensible way to fill gaps in tech trees of nations that were not as industrially … With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. I found in a book "Wehr und Waffen" from 1939 this picture. Italian Military, History, Weapons, anything Italian. This is my own site where you can enlarge every picture and click any tank to read about it! Now I will give a little review on each line. Whilst mechanically a failure in US testing, it was used by the Dutch. That said i dont want to discurage creating trees like this, I once did the same thing and thanks to some help from a guy who lived near the Swedish archives we eventually managed to get all that information and find new information on stuff we didnt even know existed. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. British ground forces Tier I - Review and Analysis - Oxy. And finally, if it has to be integrated into an other tree, it should be to a minor nations tree. Hello, I'm going to suggest adding Switzerland as a new nation to the game, and here is Swiss Ground Forces Tech Tree: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/swiss_wt.html. With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. The TIS MA is a gift rank III Soviet twin-engine fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). Japan's … L’arbre est presque exempt de tous les réservoirs d’importation, et je pense que c’est une bonne raison de voir ce pays dans le jeu. Il n’y a pas de machines SAM, mais leurs armes deviendront mortelles entre de bonnes mains. … MRS-80 turret installed on German Magirus-Deutz truck in 1964.Â, The full list of sources is pretty large, and you can access it here: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html, (Though as a side note, probably wouldn't play it all that much, as it's 80% high tier. Meet the Olifant Mk1A, a heavily modified South African … I find it amusing that people always give excuses as to why Trees such as Romania, Hunguary and now Switzerland can't get added because they dont have enough self-made vehicles. If not that then a minor nations tree with Austria, Belgium or whatever combination can you think of, but it shouldn't be alone. Some of these things can pherhaps be estimated but not the majority. There may be some problems with news display in specific browser versions. The correct question would be "Which nation would be best for my play style?" Un seul (ou peut-être peu) a été construit. Maybe it's better to make it a part of Italian tech tree, as Germany already has a lot to offer. Voici la liste des véhicules avec toutes les photos de réservoir, mais seulement un petit nombre a une description. I saw that the swedish tech tree has 2 10.7 BR tanks that look pretty good. With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. No SPAA, but we could add Skyguard and Rapier SAM, And because Switzerland being neutral, no actually country lock needed, side of choice - good Swiss tradition, to pick best of breed.Â. Its easy to … Vous pouvez accéder à des sources décentes pour tous les autres réservoirs de mon site (je vais également répondre à toutes les questions concernant mon arbre si vous en avez!). Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. War Thunder. There is no "The Best" tech tree in this game. Like can you describe the ammunition stowage for each of these, or gun depression angles, internal and crew layout, gear ratios etc etc. It was introduced in Update 1.37.Setting the basis for the definitive version of the Bf 109, the F-4, the Bf 109 F-1 … Loading... Unsubscribe from Tankenstein? War Thunder Tanks Tech Trees 12 October 2013 Attention! There is a LOT of work that goes into researching and modeling each vehicle, much more than you think. Also ,Switzerland has 2 derivatives of Leo 2. Maintenant, je vais donner un petit commentaire sur chaque ligne. +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. But just like Sweden they did continue trade relations. because there was some fight against Germany too, not only America ! Its easy to say that but you have to realize that some photos mean nothing unless there is stats & hard data to back them up. +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur le camion allemand Magirus-Deutz en 1964. British … Ligne 3 - réservoirs moyens. The vehicle was intended for export, but there was no interest in it, so it stayed in prototype stage. ), and the like. But these negative relations were nothing comparred to US bombardments of Swiss cities during the war. Though the official explanation is that these campaigns were a mistake and intended for German targets. I have added these new tanks and made some changesÂ. But my opinion is that i would prefer Swiss tree to be added into the German tree. Au début, j’ai essayé d’éviter trop de copies - et c’est pourquoi tous les chars suisses pourraient être ici (par exemple, j’ai évité certains réservoirs d’importation comme AMX-13 ou Patton). La Suisse est connue par sa neutralité, ce qui la rend à la fois intéressante et difficile. Â, This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. Depiction of any real-world weapon or vehicle in this game does not mean participation in game development, sponsorship or endorsement by any weapon or vehicle manufacturer. Published by Gaijin Network Ltd. under the exclusive license. Anyways i like the sugguestion! The XP-54, XP-56, and others. Bonjour, je vais suggérer d’ajouter la Suisse comme une nouvelle nation au jeu, et voici Swiss Ground Forces Tech Tree: C’est mon propre site où vous pouvez agrandir chaque image et cliquez sur n’importe quel réservoir pour lire à ce sujet! Was a lot of fun working on this! Light tanks with tiny protection but with dangerous armament. A United Korean Tech Tree With a large influx of modern vehicles, more people are wanting the South Korean MBT, the K1, to be added into the game. There are some indigenous design, prototypes or production, but there is much less than the ground forces, France is a minor tree too, it has better chances to go with this nation than Sweden (Switzerland, just before the ww2, wanted to do an alliance with France, if Germany wanted to declare war to Switzerland). Oerlikon-Bührle AG 20 mm Vierlings-Flabpanzer. Yes, they all are wheeled and have various interesting guns - like MRS-80 turret with two 80 mm rocket launchers or 75 mm smoothbore ARES system in the top.Â. I'm against of introducing 140mm guns to the game as of now. Cuz i don't wanna grind into another line of American tanks in order to try some unique high tier machines. Seems like it did not go further because the gun had too much recoil for this light chassis (1954). Gaijin isnt going to pay to start sending researchers abroad to search for data they may or may not even find, that kind of research needs to be done by the comunity itself. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. Today we discuss the vehicles of one of the first nations of War Thunder. I find it amusing that people always give excuses as to why Trees such as Romania, Hunguary and now Switzerland can't get added because they dont have enough self-made vehicles. I'm a bit of a Reserve to 6.7 kinda guy myself :P). Un seul (ou quelques-uns) a été construit, mais le véhicule a échoué parce qu’à l’époque ATGM étaient beaucoup mieux que 80 mm double lanceur. just like the Chinese tree … The Swedish makes their play with a full aviation tech tree in War Thunder, as well as their first threads on the ground with the new ground tech tree! 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